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Monday, May 10, 2010

Voucher hypocrisy

Bret Schundler jumps into the voucher hypocrisy pool, dismissing stats that contradict his claims and call into question his proposals.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

All the school systems of the advanced countries that we are continually compared against and against which we fall short.........DO NOT HAVE SCHOOL CHOICE, DO NOT HAVE CHARTER SCHOOLS, DO NOT HAVE SCHOOL VOUCHERS. Heck, they don't even have the home schooling nonsense. Home schooling is illegal in Germany and virtually non-existent in Finland. These countries are not about to undercut and weaken their national public school systems. And their teachers are unionized.

Christie and Schundler are really about union busting. The GOP and the conservatives won't be happy until we have 0% unionization in this country. We are down to 12% unionization but corporate America, which is behind charter schools and school vouchers won't be happy until they have destroyed all the teachers' unions. It could happen because the Democrats are also on board for charter schools and vouchers.

Anonymous said...

Best, or worst, of all are the latest results of the National Assessment of Educational Progress, or NAEP, a testing program of the U.S. Department of Education. It shows New Jersey at the top in achievement in reading and math at the fourth- and eighth-grade levels.

Anonymous said...

The National Assessment of Educational Progress, or NAEP, a testing program of the U.S. Department of Education, shows New Jersey at the top in achievement in reading and math at the fourth- and eighth-grade levels.

NJ is #1 for the percentage of high school students which graduate. It's also tops for Advanced Placement scores.

We do not have a failing school system in NJ. Some schools are in trouble and need help but overall, NJ is in the top tier of public schools in the country. From the way Christie and Schundler are carrying on, you would think we had a failing school system like that of Nevada or Mississippi.

reinkefj said...

Don't you think that Gooferment-run schools propagandizing future voters is immoral?

Don't you think that funding them by stealing wealth from unwilling victims is immoral?

Don't you think ripping children from their families and imprisoning them for many hours a day for decades being "taught" to be good little robots is immoral?

Don't you think allowing the Teachers' Union to become an overpowering force in politics is immoral?

Don't you think that "public education" in the inner cities (a failure by any measure) is immoral?

Answer those then we can chat about how it's ineffective and inefficient.

Anonymous said...

Cogito ergo sum.
Je pense donc je suis.

I 100% support public schools. Charter schools and vouchers for private and religious schools are not the way to go.
Education of our youth is key, is fundamental to the survival of our representative democracy (or republic). I got my good public education when I was a youngster and now I have no problem with my tax dollars going to public education. Public schools are no more propagandizing mills than the private schools, charter schools and certainly a lot less propagandizing than religious schools. For being turned into a robot, please, go to a religious schools.

Anonymous said...

From NorthJersey.com:



BY MICHELE FUETSCH
NorthJersey.com


The first study starring New Jersey – surprisingly little noticed – came in July from the same body that gave the recent math tests, the federal testing program known as the Nation’s Report Card or NAEP (National Assessment of Education Progress).

After studying 15 years worth of its own test scores, NAEP found that only three states have triumphed over what the study makes seem like impossible odds.

The three narrowed their achievement gaps in reading between black and white fourth graders by significantly raising black students’ test scores – and this is important – at the same time as they raised white students’ test scores....

[snip]

The second study starring New Jersey was released this fall by the Center on Education Policy, a Washington think tank that looked at the states through a different lens but echoes NAEP’s findings on New Jersey.

CEP analyzed the scores and proficiency rates from the annual tests that states gave between 2002 and 2008 in order to meet the requirements of the federal No Child Left Behind law. States write their own tests.

With just one exception, the CEP study says, in New Jersey achievement gaps for minority and low-income students narrowed in reading and in math at both elementary and high school levels. (The exception was in reading for black eleventh graders.)

These and other gains have led Linda Darling-Hammond, a Stanford University expert on school improvement and teacher education, to declare that New Jersey is “arguably now the highest-achieving state in the nation.”

reinkefj said...

Don't you think that funding them by stealing wealth from unwilling victims is immoral?

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